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CHRISTIAN MARCUSSEN, SATIRE OG YTRINGSFRIHED: GÆLDER SAMME STANDARD FOR ALLE?

Af ZLC Team i EMBEDSVÆRK UNDER LUPPEN, ISLAMOFOBI

Christian Marcussen skrev på X (tidligere Twitter): “Hvis Israel virkelig skulle imponere mig, så havde de smuglet en bombe i turbanen på Nasrallah.” Udtalelsen blev omtalt som satire og forsvaret med henvisning til ytringsfriheden.

Men hvad sker der, hvis man spejler præmissen?

Hvis det forsvares som satire og ytringsfrihed at placere en bombe i turbanen på en mellemøstlig religiøs leder, gælder den samme standard så, hvis man placerer en tegnet bombe i kronen på Dronning Margrethe?

Jeg lavede netop den spejling – med samme virkemiddel og samme præmis. Reaktionen blev markant anderledes.

Her opstår spørgsmålet om selektiv satire og ytringsfrihedens grænser. Bliver de samme virkemidler vurderet ens, når de rammer forskellige religiøse, kulturelle eller nationale symboler?

freedom of speech freedom of expression

Når lignende satiriske virkemidler bruges mod forskellige symboler, bliver reaktionerne ikke nødvendigvis de samme. Det rejser et spørgsmål om asymmetri: Vurderer vi satire efter samme standard, uanset hvem eller hvad den rammer?

Det centrale spørgsmål er derfor ikke kun, hvad man må tegne, men hvordan offentligheden, medier og institutioner reagerer, når samme greb bruges mod forskellige religiøse, kulturelle eller nationale symboler.

Hvis ytringsfriheden skal være principiel, må den også kunne tåle spejlingen. Ellers risikerer vi, at satire bliver vurderet forskelligt alt efter, hvem der står på den modtagende side.

Så spørgsmålet er ikke kun, om man må tegne en bombe i Dronningens krone.

Spørgsmålet er, om vi accepterer det samme satiriske virkemiddel, når det rammer vores egne symboler, som når det rammer andres.

“Hvis Israel virkelig skulle imponere mig, så havde de smuglet en bombe i turbanen på Nasrallah.”

Knust krone som symbol på ytringsfrihed, embedsmisbrug og selektiv satire mod vestlige symboler

Is Christian Marcussen getting angry?

Christian-marcussen-berlingske-intergrationsraadet

Ytringsfrihed eller selektiv satire? Debatten om Christian Marcussen viser et centralt dilemma: Nogle satiriske stik forsvares som fri tale, mens andre mødes med kritik, når samme virkemiddel vendes mod andre symboler.

DATO: 2/10/2024 FRA CHRISTIAN BENNEKOU MATTHIESEN

Orientering fra Udlændinge- og Integrationsministeriet

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UIM Forvaltningsret og Datasikkerhed fd@uim.dk

2 Oct 2024, 13:26
to me

 

Kære Zahid Latif

 

Ved e-mail af 23. september 2024 har du anmodet Udlændinge- og Integrationsministeriet om aktindsigt på følgende måde:

 

“[…] As you can see, I have already contacted the Minister regarding this issue and have followed up several times, but unfortunately, I have not received any response. For this reason, I am now formally requesting access to information about the collaboration between Minister Kaare Dybvad Bek and Christian Marcussen, a member of the Integration Council.

Specifically, I would like to understand the basis for CHRISTIAN MARCUSSEN’S INCLUSION IN THE COUNCIL, particularly given the troubling communication I have had with him on social media. His response to a recent exchange on X (formerly Twitter) was unnecessarily aggressive—he asked, “Would you like more terrorism in Denmark?”—which I believe reflects poorly on his suitability for such a position, especially in a council focused on integration.

Additionally, I am concerned about MEDIA BIAS, especially given Marcussen’s ties to pro-Israeli outlets like Berlingske. This raises questions about the role financial interests play in shaping narratives, and why individuals with such clear alignments are being selected for sensitive government roles.

I previously wrote to the Minister on August 8th, raising these issues. Here is the original text of my inquiry:

 

[…]

 

As I have received no response to this inquiry, I am now requesting ACCESS TO RELEVANT DOCUMENTS OR COMMUNICATIONS that can clarify the criteria for Marcussen’s selection and the relationship between the Ministry and Marcussen. A copy of this letter will also be added to my blog post for ZLCOPENHAGEN to ensure transparency on this matter. You can find the blog post at the following link:
Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Expression.

 

I look forward to your assistance in clarifying these concerns. […]”

 

Udlændinge- og Integrationsministeriet kan i den anledning oplyse, at det desværre ikke har været muligt for ministeriet at færdigbehandle din aktindsigtsanmodning inden for 7 arbejdsdage, jf. offentlighedslovens § 36, stk. 2. Dette skyldes, at ministeriet er i færd med at foretage relevante sagsskridt, herunder gennemgå relevante akter.

 

Udlændinge- og Integrationsministeriet forventer at kunne træffe afgørelse vedrørende din aktindsigtsanmodning inden for yderligere 20 arbejdsdage fra i dag.

 

Med venlig hilsen

 

Christian Bennekou Matthiesen

Kst. souschef

Forvaltningsret og Datasikkerhed

 

Udlændinge- og Integrationsministeriet

 

Departementet

Slotsholmsgade 10

DK-1216 København K

Telefon: +45 61984000

E-mail: uim@uim.dk

www.uim.dk

 

DATO: 1/10/2024 TIL UIM/DENNIS

Sendt: 1. oktober 2024

Ved e-mail af 23. september 2024 har du anmodet Udlændinge- og Integrationsministeriet om aktindsigt på følgende måde:

“[…] As you can see, I have already contacted the Minister regarding this issue and have followed up several times, but unfortunately, I have not received any response.

For this reason, I am now formally requesting access to information about the collaboration between Minister Kaare Dybvad Bek and Christian Marcussen, a member of the Integration Council.

Specifically, I would like to understand the basis for CHRISTIAN MARCUSSEN’S INCLUSION IN THE COUNCIL, particularly given the troubling communication I have had with him on social media. His response to a recent exchange on X (formerly Twitter) was
unnecessarily aggressive—he asked, “Would you like more terrorism in Denmark?”— which I believe reflects poorly on his suitability for such a position, especially in a council focused on integration.

Additionally, I am concerned about MEDIA BIAS, especially given Marcussen’s ties to pro-Israeli outlets like Berlingske. This raises questions about the role financial interests play in shaping narratives and why individuals with such clear alignments are being selected for sensitive government roles.

I previously wrote to the Minister on August 8th, raising these issues. Here is the original text of my inquiry:

[…]

As I have received no response to this inquiry, I am now requesting ACCESS TO RELEVANT DOCUMENTS OR COMMUNICATIONS that can clarify the criteria for Marcussen’s selection and the relationship between the Ministry and Marcussen. A copy of this letter will also be added to my blog post for ZLCOPENHAGEN to ensure transparency on this matter. You can find the blog post at the following link:

Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Expression.

I look forward to your assistance in clarifying these concerns. […]”
Udlændinge- og Integrationsministeriet skal bede dig om at præcisere, hvorvidt din anmodning alene vedrører oplysninger om Christian Marcussen, som eksisterer I ministeriet, siden Kaare Dybvad Bek tiltrådte som udlændinge- og integrationsminister den 2. maj 2022, eller hvorvidt anmodningen tillige vedrører eventuelle oplysninger om Christian Marcussen, som er registreret i ministeriet forud for denne dato.
Udlændinge- og Integrationsministeriet skal endvidere bede dig om eventuelt at præcisere din anmodning på anden vis, hvis du måtte ønske det.
Udlændinge- og Integrationsministeriet skal anmode dig om ovenstående snarest muligt og senest torsdag den 3. oktober 2024 ved henvendelse til fd@uim.dk.

Hvis Udlændinge- og Integrationsministeriet ikke har hørt fra dig inden for den angivne frist, vil ministeriet behandle din anmodning om aktindsigt på det foreliggende grundlag.

Med venlig hilsen

Christian Bennekou Matthiesen

DATO: 23/9/2024 TIL UIM/DENNIS

Sendt: 1. oktober 2024

Ved e-mail af 23. september 2024 har du anmodet Udlændinge- og Integrationsministeriet om aktindsigt på følgende måde:

“[…] As you can see, I have already contacted the Minister regarding this issue and have followed up several times, but unfortunately, I have not received any response.

For this reason, I am now formally requesting access to information about the collaboration between Minister Kaare Dybvad Bek and Christian Marcussen, a member of the Integration Council.

Specifically, I would like to understand the basis for CHRISTIAN MARCUSSEN’S INCLUSION IN THE COUNCIL, particularly given the troubling communication I have had with him on social media. His response to a recent exchange on X (formerly Twitter) was
unnecessarily aggressive—he asked, “Would you like more terrorism in Denmark?”— which I believe reflects poorly on his suitability for such a position, especially in a council focused on integration.

Additionally, I am concerned about MEDIA BIAS, especially given Marcussen’s ties to pro-Israeli outlets like Berlingske. This raises questions about the role financial interests play in shaping narratives and why individuals with such clear alignments are being selected for sensitive government roles.

I previously wrote to the Minister on August 8th, raising these issues. Here is the original text of my inquiry:

[…]

As I have received no response to this inquiry, I am now requesting ACCESS TO RELEVANT DOCUMENTS OR COMMUNICATIONS that can clarify the criteria for Marcussen’s selection and the relationship between the Ministry and Marcussen. A copy of this letter will also be added to my blog post for ZLCOPENHAGEN to ensure transparency on this matter. You can find the blog post at the following link:

Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Expression.

I look forward to your assistance in clarifying these concerns. […]”
Udlændinge- og Integrationsministeriet skal bede dig om at præcisere, hvorvidt din anmodning alene vedrører oplysninger om Christian Marcussen, som eksisterer I ministeriet, siden Kaare Dybvad Bek tiltrådte som udlændinge- og integrationsminister den 2. maj 2022, eller hvorvidt anmodningen tillige vedrører eventuelle oplysninger om Christian Marcussen, som er registreret i ministeriet forud for denne dato.
Udlændinge- og Integrationsministeriet skal endvidere bede dig om eventuelt at præcisere din anmodning på anden vis, hvis du måtte ønske det.
Udlændinge- og Integrationsministeriet skal anmode dig om ovenstående snarest muligt og senest torsdag den 3. oktober 2024 ved henvendelse til fd@uim.dk.

Hvis Udlændinge- og Integrationsministeriet ikke har hørt fra dig inden for den angivne frist, vil ministeriet behandle din anmodning om aktindsigt på det foreliggende grundlag.

Med venlig hilsen

Christian Bennekou Matthiesen

DATO: 23/9/2024 TIL UIM/DENNIS

Fra: Zahid Latif <latif.zahid@gmail.com>
Sendt: 23 Sept 2024, 14:53

Til: Dennis
Emne: Aktindsigt

FOIA/AKTINDSIGT

REQUEST FOR ACCESS TO INFORMATION REGARDING MINISTER’S COLLABORATION WITH CHRISTIAN MARCUSSEN

Dear Dennis,

I hope you are well, and thank you again for the conversation.

As you can see, I have already contacted the Minister regarding this issue and have followed up several times, but unfortunately, I have not received any response. For this reason, I am now formally requesting access to information about the collaboration between Minister Kaare Dybvad Bek and Christian Marcussen, a member of the Integration Council.

Specifically, I would like to understand the basis for CHRISTIAN MARCUSSEN’S INCLUSION IN THE COUNCIL, particularly given the troubling communication I have had with him on social media. His response to a recent exchange on X (formerly Twitter) was unnecessarily aggressive—he asked, “Would you like more terrorism in Denmark?”—which I believe reflects poorly on his suitability for such a position, especially in a council focused on integration.

Additionally, I am concerned about MEDIA BIAS, especially given Marcussen’s ties to pro-Israeli outlets like Berlingske. This raises questions about the role financial interests play in shaping narratives, and why individuals with such clear alignments are being selected for sensitive government roles.

I previously wrote to the Minister on August 8th, raising these issues. Here is the original text of my inquiry:


DEAR KAARE DYBVAD BEK,

I am writing to you as Zahid Latif, freelance journalist and activist, to ask an open question regarding your stance on Hamas and the conflict they are involved in.

Do you personally have any understanding of Hamas, who fight for Palestinian freedom against what many consider a terrorist and apartheid state, Israel?

Furthermore, I would like to understand why you have selected members for the Integration Council who have connections to pro-Israel media outlets such as Berlingske. Several members, including Christian Marcussen, have such ties. What are your selection criteria for these members?

As the Minister for Immigration and Integration, it is crucial to know whether your stance will increase tensions or hinder integration in our society. Do you believe that your statements and actions will benefit integration?

This article will be published on ZLCOPENHAGEN and may also be translated into German and Spanish. It will also be shared with various media outlets in Pakistan, including Pakistan Today.

Best regards,
Zahid Latif
Freelance Journalist and Activist


As I have received no response to this inquiry, I am now requesting ACCESS TO RELEVANT DOCUMENTS OR COMMUNICATIONS that can clarify the criteria for Marcussen’s selection and the relationship between the Ministry and Marcussen. A copy of this letter will also be added to my blog post for ZLCOPENHAGEN to ensure transparency on this matter. You can find the blog post at the following link:
Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Expression.

I look forward to your assistance in clarifying these concerns.

Best regards,
Zahid Latif
Freelance Journalist and Activist

DATO: 10/9/2024 TIL UIM/PETER PAGH-SCHLEGEL

Fra: Zahid
Sendt: 10 Sept 2024 at 15:33
Til: Peter Pagh-Schlegel
Emne: Åbent Spørgsmål til Kaare Dybvad Bek

Hejsa
Noget nyt, har han tid nu?

DATO: 21/8/2024 TIL UIM/PETER PAGH-SCHLEGEL

Fra: Zahid
Sendt: 21 Aug 2024, 16.34
Til: Peter Pagh-Schlegel
Emne: Åbent Spørgsmål til Kaare Dybvad Bek

Hejsa
Det er helt ok. Jeg har masser af tid. Det er slet ikke noget der haster. Sig til når der opstår et hul i kalenderen.
Mvh
Zahid Latif

DATO: 21/8/2024 FRA UIM/PETER PAGH-SCHLEGEL

Fra: Peter Pagh-Schlegel
Sendt: 21. Aug 2024, 16.18
Til: Zahid Latif
Emne: Åbent Spørgsmål til Kaare Dybvad Bek

Kære Zahid

Tak for din henvendelse. På grund af tidspres, bliver det desværre ikke muligt at få en kommentar fra ministeren.

Mvh

Peter Pagh-Schlegel

Presserådgiver

E-mail: peps@uim.dk

Udlændinge- og Integrationsministeriet

Departementet

Telefon: +45 72 26 84 00

 

DATO: 8/8/2024 TIL UIM/KAARE DYBVAAD BEK

Fra: Zahid Latif <latif.zahid@gmail.com>
Sendt: 8. august 2024 13:29
Til: Peter Pagh-Schlegel <peps@uim.dk>
Emne: Åbent Spørgsmål til Kaare Dybvad Bek

Kære Kaare Dybvad Bek,

Jeg skriver til dig som Zahid Latif, freelancejournalist og aktivist, for at stille et åbent spørgsmål om din holdning til Hamas og den konflikt, de er involveret i.

Har du personligt forståelse for Hamas, som kæmper for palæstinensernes frihed mod, hvad mange anser som en terrorist- og apartheidstat, Israel?

Jeg vil også gerne vide, hvorfor du har valgt medlemmer til Integrationsrådet med forbindelser til israelskvenlige medier som Berlingske. Flere medlemmer, herunder Christian Marcussen, har sådanne forbindelser. Hvad er dine udvælgelseskriterier for disse medlemmer?

Som minister for udlændinge og integration er det vigtigt at vide, om dine holdninger vil føre til øgede spændinger eller hindre integrationen i vores samfund. Mener du, at dine udtalelser vil gavne integrationen?

Denne artikel vil blive publiceret på ZLCopenhagen og muligvis oversat til tysk og spansk. Den vil også blive sendt til flere mediebureauer i Pakistan, herunder Pakistan Today.

Med venlig hilsen,

Zahid Latif
Freelancejournalist og aktivist

Best regards

Med venlig hilsen

 

Zahid Latif 

MORE INFO

AKTINDSIGT I CHRISTIAN MARCUSSENS ROLLE

Efter debatten bad jeg Udlændinge- og Integrationsministeriet om aktindsigt i materiale om Christian Marcussen og hans rolle i Det Nationale Integrationsråd.

Sagen trak ud. Ministeriet oplyste senere, at jeg under behandlingen havde modtaget seks underretninger om forventet svartid, og ministeriet beklagede både den lange sagsbehandlingstid og, at estimaterne ikke havde været tilstrækkeligt realistiske.

Ministeriet færdigbehandlede senere sagen og gav mig delvis aktindsigt. En del materiale blev undtaget med henvisning til reglerne om personalesager og interne dokumenter i offentlighedsloven.

Det relevante spørgsmål i denne artikel er derfor ikke kun satire, men også hvordan en offentlig udpegelse kan undersøges gennem aktindsigt og dokumentation.

Aktindsigt blev i denne sag et redskab til at undersøge beslutningsgrundlaget bag Christian Marcussens rolle i Det Nationale Integrationsråd.