{"id":34676,"date":"2025-02-15T21:10:54","date_gmt":"2025-02-15T20:10:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/zlcopenhagen.com\/is-israel-lobby-for-real\/"},"modified":"2025-12-26T13:25:44","modified_gmt":"2025-12-26T12:25:44","slug":"jotam-confino-nina-palesa-bonde-israel-debat","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zlcopenhagen.com\/da\/jotam-confino-nina-palesa-bonde-israel-debat\/","title":{"rendered":"HVEM STYRER PROPAGANDAEN? DUKKETEATRET MED JOTAM &#038; NINA"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[spb_image image=&#8221;40979&#8243; image_size=&#8221;full&#8221; frame=&#8221;noframe&#8221; caption_pos=&#8221;hover&#8221; remove_rounded=&#8221;yes&#8221; fullwidth=&#8221;no&#8221; overflow_mode=&#8221;none&#8221; link_target=&#8221;_self&#8221; lightbox=&#8221;no&#8221; intro_animation=&#8221;none&#8221; animation_delay=&#8221;200&#8243; width=&#8221;1\/1&#8243; el_position=&#8221;first last&#8221;][\/spb_image] [spb_text_block animation=&#8221;none&#8221; animation_delay=&#8221;0&#8243; simplified_controls=&#8221;yes&#8221; custom_css_percentage=&#8221;no&#8221; padding_vertical=&#8221;0&#8243; padding_horizontal=&#8221;0&#8243; margin_vertical=&#8221;0&#8243; custom_css=&#8221;margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;&#8221; border_size=&#8221;0&#8243; border_styling_global=&#8221;default&#8221; width=&#8221;1\/1&#8243; el_position=&#8221;first last&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h2>FRA JUDENREIN TIL ARABREIN<\/h2>\n<p>N\u00e5r sproget bliver et v\u00e5ben, gentager historien sig ikke \u2014 den forvandler sig. I dag genopst\u00e5r <em>\u201cJudenrein\u201d<\/em>, nazisternes udtryk for etnisk rensning, i en ny skikkelse: <em>\u201cArabrein\u201d<\/em>. Et ord, der siger det, ingen regeringer vil indr\u00f8mme h\u00f8jt.<\/p>\n<p>Norman Finkelstein, s\u00f8n af Holocaust-overlevere, kalder det ved sit navn. Han river masken af magtens fort\u00e6lling og minder om, at historien ikke vasker nogen rene. Den gentager kun sin kynisme i nye uniformer.<\/p>\n<p>Hvor Jotam Confino forsvarer systemet gennem ironi og afstand, og Francesca Albanese angribes for sit mod, st\u00e5r Finkelstein som den stemme, der ikke kan k\u00f8bes eller ties ihjel. Hans stempel g\u00f8r sproget farligt igen \u2014 fra <em>Judenrein<\/em> til <em>Arabrein<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>[\/spb_text_block] [spb_blank_spacer height=&#8221;30px&#8221; width=&#8221;1\/1&#8243; el_position=&#8221;first last&#8221;] [spb_raw_html width=&#8221;1\/1&#8243; el_position=&#8221;first last&#8221;]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[\/spb_raw_html] [spb_blank_spacer height=&#8221;30px&#8221; width=&#8221;1\/1&#8243; el_position=&#8221;first last&#8221;] [spb_text_block animation=&#8221;none&#8221; animation_delay=&#8221;0&#8243; simplified_controls=&#8221;yes&#8221; custom_css_percentage=&#8221;no&#8221; padding_vertical=&#8221;0&#8243; padding_horizontal=&#8221;0&#8243; margin_vertical=&#8221;0&#8243; custom_css=&#8221;margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;&#8221; border_size=&#8221;0&#8243; border_styling_global=&#8221;default&#8221; width=&#8221;1\/1&#8243; el_position=&#8221;first last&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"446\" data-end=\"704\">Som Francesca Albanese selv formulerede det: <em data-start=\"491\" data-end=\"531\">\u201cPro-Israelism is a cult in the West.\u201d<\/em><br data-start=\"531\" data-end=\"534\" \/>Hun har ret \u2013 og det er fascinerende at se, hvordan kulten dyrker sig selv gennem kommentatorer, der i stedet for at belyse konflikten bruger medierne som r\u00f8gmaskine.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"711\" data-end=\"943\">Der er n\u00e6sten noget poetisk over, hvordan ordene \u201cmenneskerettigheder\u201d og \u201cfakta\u201d bliver trylleformularer, ikke begreber. Francesca ville sikkert kalde det \u201cden vestlige kults selvretf\u00e6rdige ritualer.\u201d Jeg kalder det tirsdag p\u00e5 X.<\/p>\n<p>[\/spb_text_block] [spb_blank_spacer height=&#8221;30px&#8221; width=&#8221;1\/1&#8243; el_position=&#8221;first last&#8221;] [spb_blank_spacer height=&#8221;30px&#8221; width=&#8221;1\/1&#8243; el_position=&#8221;first last&#8221;] [spb_raw_html width=&#8221;1\/1&#8243; el_position=&#8221;first last&#8221;]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[\/spb_raw_html] [spb_blank_spacer height=&#8221;30px&#8221; width=&#8221;1\/1&#8243; el_position=&#8221;first last&#8221;] [spb_text_block animation=&#8221;none&#8221; animation_delay=&#8221;0&#8243; simplified_controls=&#8221;yes&#8221; custom_css_percentage=&#8221;no&#8221; padding_vertical=&#8221;0&#8243; padding_horizontal=&#8221;0&#8243; margin_vertical=&#8221;0&#8243; custom_css=&#8221;margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;&#8221; border_size=&#8221;0&#8243; border_styling_global=&#8221;default&#8221; width=&#8221;1\/1&#8243; el_position=&#8221;first last&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h2>KOMMENTATOREN SOM R\u00d8GMASKINE<\/h2>\n<p>N\u00e5r kritik kaldes \u201cantisemitisk\u201d pr. automatik, flyttes fokus fra <em data-start=\"1398\" data-end=\"1408\">handling<\/em> til <em data-start=\"1413\" data-end=\"1421\">etiket<\/em>. Albanese peger p\u00e5 netop det\u2014og i K\u00f8benhavn ser vi \u00f8velsen gentaget: <strong data-start=\"1491\" data-end=\"1506\">abstraktion<\/strong> (\u201cdet handler kun om terror\u201d), <strong data-start=\"1538\" data-end=\"1553\">distraktion<\/strong> (skift emne), <strong data-start=\"1568\" data-end=\"1580\">blurring<\/strong> (alt er bare holdninger). 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Zionistisk propaganda forkl\u00e6dt som objektiv journalistik \u2013 midt i hjertet af K\u00f8benhavn.<\/p>\n<h2 data-start=\"655\" data-end=\"695\">N\u00c5R ZIONISTER LEGER MENINGSVOGTERE<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"499\" data-end=\"766\">Jotam starter med at rase over graffiti og klisterm\u00e6rker i K\u00f8benhavn, der st\u00f8tter Pal\u00e6stina. If\u00f8lge ham er det &#8220;vandalisme&#8221; og &#8220;normalisering af terror.&#8221;<br data-start=\"652\" data-end=\"655\" \/>Gad vide, om han mon var lige s\u00e5 forarget, da zionistiske grupper h\u00e6ngte pro-israelske budskaber op? Nok n\u00e6ppe.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"768\" data-end=\"926\">Og som altid er Nina ikke langt v\u00e6k. Hun dukker op i kommentarsporet med sit vanlige spin: en antydning om, at enhver st\u00f8tte til Pal\u00e6stina = st\u00f8tte til Hamas.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1166\" data-end=\"1194\"><strong data-start=\"1166\" data-end=\"1192\">Hvem manipulerer hvem?\u00a0<\/strong>Det her er ikke tilf\u00e6ldigt. Som Francesca Albanese sagde:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p data-start=\"1257\" data-end=\"1469\"><em data-start=\"1257\" data-end=\"1467\">&#8220;Pro-Israelism is a cult in the West. Dangerous, hypocritical, and shameful at the time an entire people is being exterminated with a mix of 21st century military technologies and evergreen genocidal sadism.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p data-start=\"1227\" data-end=\"1296\">Jotam og Nina er frontfigurer i dette kult-lignende narrativ. De vil:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p data-start=\"1300\" data-end=\"1329\">Kontrollere, hvad du t\u00e6nker<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1332\" data-end=\"1369\">Bestemme, hvordan du tolker nyheder<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1372\" data-end=\"1411\">S\u00e6tte gr\u00e6nser for, hvad du m\u00e5 sige h\u00f8jt<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<h2 data-start=\"1619\" data-end=\"1656\">NINA &amp; JOTAM: MISSIONEN ER KLAR<\/h2>\n<ol data-start=\"1658\" data-end=\"1798\">\n<li data-start=\"1658\" data-end=\"1715\">Mal enhver pro-pal\u00e6stinensisk ytring som ekstremisme<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"1716\" data-end=\"1751\">Udbred frygt og misinformation<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"1752\" data-end=\"1798\">Spil offerkortet, n\u00e5r nogen kalder dem ud<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p data-start=\"1800\" data-end=\"1876\">Men sandheden er, at ingen l\u00e6ngere k\u00f8ber deres spin. 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custom_css_percentage=&#8221;no&#8221; padding_vertical=&#8221;0&#8243; padding_horizontal=&#8221;0&#8243; margin_vertical=&#8221;0&#8243; custom_css=&#8221;margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;&#8221; border_size=&#8221;0&#8243; border_styling_global=&#8221;default&#8221; width=&#8221;1\/1&#8243; el_position=&#8221;first last&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h2>Om tonen\/implicitte trusler i SoMe-debatten (eksempel: Nina PB-tr\u00e5den)<\/h2>\n<p><strong>Hvad der sker i tr\u00e5den (kort):<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul data-spread=\"false\">\n<li>En deltager (Nina PB) svarer kritisk tilbage. Hun skriver bl.a.: <em>\u201cHvis du ikke l\u00e6gger v\u00e6rdi i politi, efterretningstjeneste, sigtelser, forskning. S\u00e5 fint. Men du m\u00e5 g\u00f8re dig mere umage\u2026\u201d<\/em> samt nedg\u00f8rende vendingen <em>\u201cM\u00e5ge-debat gider jeg ikke.\u201d<\/em><\/li>\n<li>I en anden svartr\u00e5d kalder hun andres argumenter for \u201csjovt\u201d i betydningen useri\u00f8se og peger p\u00e5 j\u00f8deforf\u00f8lgelser i arabiske lande som modangreb.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Hvorfor det kan opleves som truende\/intimiderende:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul data-spread=\"false\">\n<li><strong>Autoritets-invokation<\/strong>: Henvisning til <em>politi\/efterretningstjeneste\/sigtelser<\/em> fungerer som en implicit magtdemonstration (&#8220;myndighederne er p\u00e5 min side&#8221;). Det er ikke en direkte trussel, men en <strong>indirekte intimidering<\/strong>.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Tone-policing<\/strong>: Kravet om at \u201ctale p\u00e6nt\u201d bruges sammen med en afvisning (&#8220;gider jeg ikke&#8221;), som flytter fokus fra substansen til formen og s\u00e6tter modparten i defensiven.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Delegitimering<\/strong>: Ord som <em>\u201cm\u00e5ge-debat\u201d<\/em> er en <strong>forringende etiket<\/strong>, der signalerer at modpartens bidrag er larm\/skrald \u2192 social udskamning frem for argument.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Whataboutism\/afledning<\/strong>: Skift til generelle forhold om j\u00f8ders situation i andre lande bruges som <strong>afsidesman\u00f8vre<\/strong> fra den konkrete kritik i tr\u00e5den.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Hvordan svare uden at blive trukket ind i en eskalerende spiral:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ol start=\"1\" data-spread=\"false\">\n<li><strong>S\u00e6t gr\u00e6nse + tilbage til sag:<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>\u201cHenvisninger til politi\/efterretningstjeneste h\u00f8rer ikke hjemme i en debat. Hvis du har et konkret modargument, s\u00e5 lad os tage det \u2013 ellers stopper jeg her.\u201d<\/em><\/li>\n<li><strong>Bed om pr\u00e6cisering (flytter byrden):<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>\u201cHvilken p\u00e5stand vil du have dokumenteret, og hvilket datagrundlag efterlyser du?\u201d<\/em><\/li>\n<li><strong>Afvis etiketter, eftersp\u00f8rg indhold:<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>\u201cAt kalde det \u2018m\u00e5ge-debat\u2019 er en etikette. Hvad er det specifikke, du er uenig i?\u201d<\/em><\/li>\n<li><strong>Luk p\u00e6nt ved insisteren p\u00e5 intimidering:<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>\u201cN\u00e5r du bringer sigtelser\/efterretning p\u00e5 banen, er det ikke en faglig diskussion. Jeg g\u00e5r videre.\u201d Se <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=wkraKVOAqOk&amp;t=926s\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">her\u00a0<\/a><\/strong><\/em><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>[\/spb_text_block] [spb_blank_spacer height=&#8221;30px&#8221; width=&#8221;1\/1&#8243; el_position=&#8221;first last&#8221;] [spb_video link=&#8221;https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Q1Iw2fm58FY&#8221; remove_related=&#8221;yes&#8221; autoplay=&#8221;no&#8221; full_width=&#8221;no&#8221; width=&#8221;1\/1&#8243; el_position=&#8221;first last&#8221;] [spb_blank_spacer height=&#8221;30px&#8221; width=&#8221;1\/1&#8243; el_position=&#8221;first last&#8221;] [spb_text_block animation=&#8221;none&#8221; animation_delay=&#8221;0&#8243; simplified_controls=&#8221;yes&#8221; custom_css_percentage=&#8221;no&#8221; padding_vertical=&#8221;0&#8243; padding_horizontal=&#8221;0&#8243; margin_vertical=&#8221;0&#8243; custom_css=&#8221;margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;&#8221; border_size=&#8221;0&#8243; border_styling_global=&#8221;default&#8221; width=&#8221;1\/1&#8243; el_position=&#8221;first last&#8221;]<\/p>\n<div class=\"flex flex-grow flex-col max-w-full\">\n<div class=\"min-h-[20px] text-message flex flex-col items-start whitespace-pre-wrap break-words [.text-message+&amp;]:mt-5 juice:w-full juice:items-end overflow-x-auto gap-2\" dir=\"auto\" data-message-author-role=\"assistant\" data-message-id=\"7b8ac849-493c-4c54-9d38-df4e176e4af5\">\n<div class=\"flex w-full flex-col gap-1 juice:empty:hidden juice:first:pt-[3px]\">\n<div class=\"markdown prose w-full break-words dark:prose-invert light\">\n<h2>DEN ISRAELSKE LOBBY<\/h2>\n<p>At diskutere Israels lobby f\u00f8rer ofte til beskyldninger om antisemitisme, p\u00e5 trods af dens ubestridelige eksistens i over et \u00e5rhundrede. Den israelske historiker Ilan Papp\u00e9 slutter sig til Aaron Bastani for at udforske sin nye bog, som dykker ned i zionismens r\u00f8dder og modstanden mod den i det 19. og 20. \u00e5rhundrede. De diskuterer vigtige personer og grupper som Harold Wilson, Nye Bevan, AIPAC, Labour Friends of Israel og zionismens kristne oprindelse.<\/p>\n<p>Youtube videoen er indelt i f\u00f8lgende afsnit.<\/p>\n<p>00:00 &#8211; Intro<br \/>\n02:45 &#8211; Hvorfor skrive denne bog nu?<br \/>\n05:18 &#8211; Censur i Israel<br \/>\n13:42 &#8211; Hvordan begyndte zionismen?<br \/>\n20:46 &#8211; Tidlige politiske zionister<br \/>\n30:22 &#8211; Tidlige anti-zionister<br \/>\n36:00 &#8211; Israels lobby og Labour Party<br \/>\n46:57 &#8211; Konservative venner af Israel<br \/>\n49:09 &#8211; Israel og &#8216;Venstrefl\u00f8jen&#8217;<br \/>\n57:17 &#8211; AIPAC<br \/>\n01:12:37 &#8211; Luke Akehurst<br \/>\n01:16:25 &#8211; Tony Blair og Israels lobby<\/p>\n<p>Vi har taget dette fra Novara Live-udsendelser, som sendes hver hverdag fra kl. 18.00 p\u00e5 YouTube og Twitch. Afsnit af Downstream udgives s\u00f8ndage kl. 15.00 p\u00e5 YouTube. Du kan st\u00f8tte dem direkte.<\/p>\n<p>Hos DNA ZLCOPENHAGEN g\u00e5r vi st\u00e6rkt ind for retf\u00e6rdighed og ytringsfrihed. V\u00e6r med i kampen for disse essentielle v\u00e6rdier!<\/p>\n<p>L\u00e6s mere her fra <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/mediekritisk.dk\/2024\/06\/betalte-rejser-til-israel-til-journalister-og-debattoerer-undergraver-pressens-trovaerdighed\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Mediekritisk<\/a><\/strong> og <a href=\"https:\/\/www.information.dk\/debat\/2024\/06\/betalte-rejser-israel-journalister-debattoerer-undergraver-pressens-trovaerdighed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Information\u00a0<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Og en manual hvordan man <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.transcend.org\/tms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/sf-israel-projects-2009-global-language-dictionary.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">brainwasher vesten<\/a><\/strong>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>[\/spb_text_block] [spb_image image=&#8221;35680&#8243; image_size=&#8221;full&#8221; frame=&#8221;noframe&#8221; caption_pos=&#8221;hover&#8221; remove_rounded=&#8221;yes&#8221; fullwidth=&#8221;no&#8221; overflow_mode=&#8221;none&#8221; link_target=&#8221;_self&#8221; lightbox=&#8221;no&#8221; intro_animation=&#8221;none&#8221; animation_delay=&#8221;200&#8243; width=&#8221;1\/1&#8243; el_position=&#8221;first last&#8221;][\/spb_image] [spb_text_block animation=&#8221;none&#8221; animation_delay=&#8221;0&#8243; simplified_controls=&#8221;yes&#8221; custom_css_percentage=&#8221;no&#8221; padding_vertical=&#8221;0&#8243; padding_horizontal=&#8221;0&#8243; margin_vertical=&#8221;0&#8243; custom_css=&#8221;margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;&#8221; border_size=&#8221;0&#8243; border_styling_global=&#8221;default&#8221; width=&#8221;1\/1&#8243; el_position=&#8221;first last&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h3 data-start=\"514\" data-end=\"571\">FLERE STILLER SP\u00d8RGSM\u00c5LSTEGN VED JOTAM CONFINOS ROLLE<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"573\" data-end=\"821\">Det er ikke l\u00e6ngere kun tilf\u00e6ldige X-brugere, der undrer sig. Den svenske journalist og forfatter Kajsa Ekis Ekman har i sin artikel <em data-start=\"706\" data-end=\"757\">\u201cHan var med och skapade st\u00f6det f\u00f6r ett folkmord\u201d<\/em> (1. august 2025) gravet dybere i netop Jotam Confinos baggrund.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"823\" data-end=\"1135\">Her beskriver hun, hvordan Confino i \u00e5revis har v\u00e6ret t\u00e6t knyttet til israelske institutioner \u2013 med baggrund i Tel Aviv, arbejde for IDF-n\u00e6re tankesmedjer, loyal d\u00e6kning i medier som i24News og personlig kontakt til Netanyahu. Alligevel bliver han stadig pr\u00e6senteret som \u201cuafh\u00e6ngig journalist\u201d i vestlige medier.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1137\" data-end=\"1275\">Ekman stiller det oplagte sp\u00f8rgsm\u00e5l:<br data-start=\"1173\" data-end=\"1176\" \/><strong data-start=\"1176\" data-end=\"1275\">\u201cHvor mange journalister med tilsvarende b\u00e5nd til Pal\u00e6stina f\u00e5r lov at optr\u00e6de i vores medier?\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1277\" data-end=\"1490\">Du kan l\u00e6se hele hendes afsl\u00f8rende analyse her:<br data-start=\"1324\" data-end=\"1327\" \/>\ud83d\udc49 <a class=\"cursor-pointer\" target=\"_new\" rel=\"noopener\" data-start=\"1330\" data-end=\"1490\">Han var med och skapade st\u00f6det f\u00f6r ett folkmord \u2013 Kajsa Ekis Ekman, 1. august 2025<\/a><\/p>\n<p>[\/spb_text_block] [spb_blank_spacer height=&#8221;30px&#8221; width=&#8221;1\/1&#8243; el_position=&#8221;first last&#8221;] [spb_raw_html width=&#8221;1\/1&#8243; el_position=&#8221;first last&#8221;]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[\/spb_raw_html] [spb_text_block animation=&#8221;none&#8221; animation_delay=&#8221;0&#8243; simplified_controls=&#8221;yes&#8221; custom_css_percentage=&#8221;no&#8221; padding_vertical=&#8221;0&#8243; padding_horizontal=&#8221;0&#8243; margin_vertical=&#8221;0&#8243; custom_css=&#8221;margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;&#8221; border_size=&#8221;0&#8243; border_styling_global=&#8221;default&#8221; width=&#8221;1\/1&#8243; el_position=&#8221;first last&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"72\" data-end=\"192\">Hvis man sammenholder <strong data-start=\"94\" data-end=\"122\">Nina Palesa Bondes tweet<\/strong> med <strong data-start=\"127\" data-end=\"161\">Norman Finkelsteins udtalelser<\/strong>, st\u00e5r kontrasten ret skarpt:<\/p>\n<ul data-start=\"194\" data-end=\"834\">\n<li data-start=\"194\" data-end=\"489\">\n<p data-start=\"196\" data-end=\"489\"><strong data-start=\"196\" data-end=\"211\">Finkelstein<\/strong> taler om <em data-start=\"221\" data-end=\"248\">israelsk magt og overgreb<\/em>, om hvordan <em data-start=\"261\" data-end=\"333\">Pal\u00e6stinenserne uds\u00e6ttes for systematisk undertrykkelse og udslettelse<\/em>, og hvordan <em data-start=\"346\" data-end=\"374\">\u201cgenocide\u201d og \u201cstarvation\u201d<\/em> bruges som v\u00e5ben.<br data-start=\"392\" data-end=\"395\" \/>\u2192 Han placerer ansvaret for volden og den moralske opl\u00f8sning hos <em data-start=\"462\" data-end=\"486\">Israel og dets st\u00f8tter<\/em>.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"491\" data-end=\"834\">\n<p data-start=\"493\" data-end=\"834\"><strong data-start=\"493\" data-end=\"508\">Nina Palesa<\/strong> vender det p\u00e5 hovedet: hun taler om <em data-start=\"545\" data-end=\"576\">j\u00f8der som ofre for udst\u00f8delse<\/em> i arabiske lande, kalder det ironisk at bruge ordet \u201cfolkedrab\u201d, og flytter opm\u00e6rksomheden v\u00e6k fra Gaza \u2013 mod \u201cj\u00f8dernes forsvinden\u201d i Mellem\u00f8sten.<br data-start=\"723\" data-end=\"726\" \/>\u2192 Hun spejler Finkelsteins sprog, men i modsat retning: <em data-start=\"784\" data-end=\"806\">fra kritik af magten<\/em> til <em data-start=\"811\" data-end=\"831\">forsvar for magten<\/em>.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p data-start=\"836\" data-end=\"928\">Kort sagt:<br data-start=\"846\" data-end=\"849\" \/>Finkelstein = <em data-start=\"863\" data-end=\"887\">undertrykkerens ansvar<\/em>.<br data-start=\"888\" data-end=\"891\" \/>Nina = <em data-start=\"898\" data-end=\"925\">offerets omvendte forsvar<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"930\" data-end=\"1121\">Hun bruger klassisk \u201cblurring\u201d-strategi: hun flytter samtalen v\u00e6k fra nutidens strukturelle vold mod pal\u00e6stinenserne og hen mod historisk antisemitisme \u2014 som om den ene udelukker den anden.<\/p>\n<h2 data-start=\"89\" data-end=\"295\">FRA OFFER TIL UNDSKYLDNING<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"89\" data-end=\"295\">N\u00e5r Norman Finkelstein taler, vender han spejlet mod magten. Han kalder Israels krig for, hvad den er \u2013 et organiseret overgreb, hvor sult og \u00f8del\u00e6ggelse bruges som v\u00e5ben.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"297\" data-end=\"607\">Nina Palesa g\u00f8r det modsatte. I stedet for at se volden, vender hun blikket v\u00e6k \u2013 tilbage mod historien. Hun taler om j\u00f8dernes fordrivelse i arabiske lande, som om det alene kan forklare alt, der sker i Gaza. Det er det, der kaldes <em data-start=\"529\" data-end=\"554\">den omvendte offerrolle<\/em>: n\u00e5r lidelsen bruges til at d\u00e6kke over ny lidelse.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"609\" data-end=\"820\">Hvor Finkelstein siger <em data-start=\"632\" data-end=\"669\">\u201cIsrael har gjort Gaza til helvede\u201d<\/em>, siger hun <em data-start=\"681\" data-end=\"707\">\u201cmen hvad med araberne?\u201d<\/em><br data-start=\"707\" data-end=\"710\" \/>To s\u00e6tninger, to verdener. Den ene fors\u00f8ger at standse volden. Den anden f\u00e5r den til at lyde som et forsvar.<\/p>\n<p>[\/spb_text_block] [spb_text_block animation=&#8221;none&#8221; animation_delay=&#8221;0&#8243; simplified_controls=&#8221;yes&#8221; custom_css_percentage=&#8221;no&#8221; padding_vertical=&#8221;0&#8243; padding_horizontal=&#8221;0&#8243; margin_vertical=&#8221;0&#8243; custom_css=&#8221;margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;&#8221; border_size=&#8221;0&#8243; border_styling_global=&#8221;default&#8221; width=&#8221;1\/1&#8243; el_position=&#8221;first last&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h2 data-start=\"176\" data-end=\"455\">DEN PYRAMIDISKE FORVIRRING<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"176\" data-end=\"455\">Enhver konflikt ligner til sidst en organisation. Der er en top, en bund \u2014 og grene, der stikker ud i alle retninger.<br data-start=\"326\" data-end=\"329\" \/>Hvis du vil forst\u00e5, m\u00e5 du holde dig til den gren, hvor problemet faktisk vokser. Ellers ender du bare med at besk\u00e6re luften.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"457\" data-end=\"776\">Det er pr\u00e6cis det, der sker i debatten om Gaza. I stedet for at se p\u00e5 magten og dens konsekvenser \u2014 b\u00f8rnene, sulten, murene \u2014 begynder man at snakke om helt andre grene: arabiske landes fortid, religi\u00f8se traumer, gamle krige.<br data-start=\"682\" data-end=\"685\" \/>Resultatet er et pyramidespil af undvigelser. Alle peger p\u00e5 hinanden, ingen tager ansvar.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"778\" data-end=\"936\">Finkelstein bliver ved stammen. Han kalder det, som det er.<br data-start=\"837\" data-end=\"840\" \/>Nina Palesa bev\u00e6ger sig op i kronen, hvor alt snor sig sammen, og intet l\u00e6ngere kan adskilles.<\/p>\n<p>[\/spb_text_block] [spb_video link=&#8221;https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=wkraKVOAqOk&amp;t=926s&#8221; remove_related=&#8221;yes&#8221; autoplay=&#8221;no&#8221; full_width=&#8221;no&#8221; width=&#8221;1\/1&#8243; el_position=&#8221;first last&#8221;] [spb_image image=&#8221;48947&#8243; image_size=&#8221;full&#8221; frame=&#8221;noframe&#8221; caption_pos=&#8221;hover&#8221; remove_rounded=&#8221;yes&#8221; fullwidth=&#8221;no&#8221; overflow_mode=&#8221;none&#8221; link_target=&#8221;_self&#8221; lightbox=&#8221;no&#8221; intro_animation=&#8221;none&#8221; animation_delay=&#8221;200&#8243; width=&#8221;1\/1&#8243; el_position=&#8221;first last&#8221;][\/spb_image] [spb_text_block animation=&#8221;none&#8221; animation_delay=&#8221;0&#8243; simplified_controls=&#8221;yes&#8221; custom_css_percentage=&#8221;no&#8221; 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framing<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr data-start=\"299\" data-end=\"326\">\n<td data-start=\"299\" data-end=\"307\" data-col-size=\"sm\">11:30<\/td>\n<td data-start=\"307\" data-end=\"326\" data-col-size=\"sm\">Trump Gaza plan<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr data-start=\"327\" data-end=\"363\">\n<td data-start=\"327\" data-end=\"335\" data-col-size=\"sm\">23:00<\/td>\n<td data-start=\"335\" data-end=\"363\" data-col-size=\"sm\">Netanyahu and atrocities<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr data-start=\"364\" data-end=\"400\">\n<td data-start=\"364\" data-end=\"372\" data-col-size=\"sm\">34:30<\/td>\n<td data-col-size=\"sm\" data-start=\"372\" data-end=\"400\">Ceasefire &amp; displacement<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr data-start=\"401\" data-end=\"435\">\n<td data-start=\"401\" data-end=\"409\" data-col-size=\"sm\">46:00<\/td>\n<td data-start=\"409\" data-end=\"435\" data-col-size=\"sm\">Arab states &amp; the West<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr data-start=\"436\" data-end=\"477\">\n<td data-start=\"436\" data-end=\"444\" data-col-size=\"sm\">57:30<\/td>\n<td data-start=\"444\" data-end=\"477\" data-col-size=\"sm\">Collapse of international law<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr data-start=\"478\" data-end=\"511\">\n<td data-start=\"478\" data-end=\"488\" data-col-size=\"sm\">1:09:00<\/td>\n<td data-start=\"488\" data-end=\"511\" data-col-size=\"sm\">Hamas and October 7<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr data-start=\"512\" data-end=\"550\">\n<td data-start=\"512\" data-end=\"522\" data-col-size=\"sm\">1:20:30<\/td>\n<td data-start=\"522\" data-end=\"550\" data-col-size=\"sm\">Brutality over 24 months<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr data-start=\"551\" data-end=\"583\">\n<td data-start=\"551\" data-end=\"561\" data-col-size=\"sm\">1:32:00<\/td>\n<td data-start=\"561\" data-end=\"583\" data-col-size=\"sm\">Media &amp; propaganda<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr data-start=\"584\" data-end=\"622\">\n<td data-start=\"584\" data-end=\"594\" data-col-size=\"sm\">1:43:30<\/td>\n<td data-col-size=\"sm\" data-start=\"594\" data-end=\"622\">Genocide, famine &amp; facts<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr data-start=\"623\" data-end=\"662\">\n<td data-start=\"623\" data-end=\"633\" data-col-size=\"sm\">1:55:00<\/td>\n<td data-start=\"633\" data-end=\"662\" data-col-size=\"sm\">Israeli society consensus<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr data-start=\"663\" data-end=\"701\">\n<td data-start=\"663\" data-end=\"673\" data-col-size=\"sm\">2:06:30<\/td>\n<td data-col-size=\"sm\" data-start=\"673\" data-end=\"701\">Resistance &amp; suppression<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr data-start=\"702\" data-end=\"736\">\n<td data-start=\"702\" data-end=\"712\" data-col-size=\"sm\">2:18:00<\/td>\n<td data-col-size=\"sm\" data-start=\"712\" data-end=\"736\">History &amp; liberation<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr data-start=\"737\" data-end=\"778\">\n<td data-start=\"737\" data-end=\"747\" data-col-size=\"sm\">2:29:30<\/td>\n<td data-start=\"747\" data-end=\"778\" data-col-size=\"sm\">Future of Palestinian cause<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr data-start=\"779\" data-end=\"810\">\n<td data-start=\"779\" data-end=\"789\" data-col-size=\"sm\">2:41:00<\/td>\n<td data-col-size=\"sm\" data-start=\"789\" data-end=\"810\">Final reflections<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<hr data-start=\"812\" data-end=\"815\" \/>\n<h3 data-start=\"817\" data-end=\"855\">HVAD NORMAN SIGER (KORT FORTALT)<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"856\" data-end=\"1146\"><strong data-start=\"856\" data-end=\"896\">\u201cFolkedrabet er midlet, ikke m\u00e5let.\u201d<\/strong><br data-start=\"896\" data-end=\"899\" \/>Planen er if\u00f8lge ham et r\u00f8gsl\u00f8r, der normaliserer fortsat \u00f8del\u00e6ggelse af Gaza.<br data-start=\"977\" data-end=\"980\" \/><strong data-start=\"980\" data-end=\"1035\">\u201cVejen til 7. oktober var brolagt med fredsplaner.\u201d<\/strong><br data-start=\"1035\" data-end=\"1038\" \/>Carter \u2192 Reagan \u2192 Bush Sr. \u2192 Oslo \u2192 Bush Jr. \u2192 Annapolis \u2192 Trump \u2192 Biden.<br data-start=\"1111\" data-end=\"1114\" \/><em data-start=\"1114\" data-end=\"1146\">Intet h\u00e5ndh\u00e6vet. Intet \u00e6ndret.<\/em><\/p>\n<hr data-start=\"1148\" data-end=\"1151\" \/>\n<h3 data-start=\"1153\" data-end=\"1180\">TRUMP-PLANEN \u2013 KERNEN<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"1181\" data-end=\"1520\"><strong data-start=\"1181\" data-end=\"1190\">Form:<\/strong> Kaldes v\u00e5benhvile, fungerer som ultimatum.<br data-start=\"1233\" data-end=\"1236\" \/><strong data-start=\"1236\" data-end=\"1249\">Realitet:<\/strong> 72 timer for gidsler, men ingen deadline for noget andet.<br data-start=\"1307\" data-end=\"1310\" \/><strong data-start=\"1310\" data-end=\"1325\">Konsekvens:<\/strong> Israel bevarer kontrol \u2013 \u201cafv\u00e6bning\u201d bliver vetoret.<br data-start=\"1378\" data-end=\"1381\" \/><strong data-start=\"1381\" data-end=\"1402\">Humanit\u00e6r adgang:<\/strong> Formuleringer kan bruges til at udelukke FN og UNRWA.<br data-start=\"1456\" data-end=\"1459\" \/><strong data-start=\"1459\" data-end=\"1472\">Resultat:<\/strong> Kort pause, lidt n\u00f8dhj\u00e6lp \u2013 og s\u00e5 fornyet krig.<\/p>\n<hr data-start=\"1522\" data-end=\"1525\" \/>\n<h3 data-start=\"1527\" data-end=\"1551\">DE CENTRALE HULLER<\/h3>\n<blockquote>\n<p data-start=\"1554\" data-end=\"1603\"><em>Kun \u00e9n konkret tidsfrist: 72 timer for gidsler.<\/em><\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1606\" data-end=\"1660\"><em>\u201cAgreed upon line\u201d for tilbagetr\u00e6kning = udefineret.<\/em><\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1663\" data-end=\"1691\"><em>Afv\u00e6bning = israelsk veto.<\/em><\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1694\" data-end=\"1731\"><em>Humanit\u00e6r hj\u00e6lp filtreres politisk.<\/em><\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1734\" data-end=\"1786\"><em>L\u00f8ftet om \u201cingen fordrivelse\u201d modsiges af praksis.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<hr data-start=\"1788\" data-end=\"1791\" \/>\n<h3 data-start=\"1793\" data-end=\"1825\">\u00a07. OKTOBER \u2013 HANS L\u00c6SNING<\/h3>\n<blockquote>\n<p data-start=\"1828\" data-end=\"1866\"><em>Ikke en masterplan, men desperation.<\/em><\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1869\" data-end=\"1928\"><em>Hamas fors\u00f8gte diplomati, ret, ikke-vold \u2192 alt ignoreret.<\/em><\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1931\" data-end=\"1993\"><em>Angrebet var et \u201ckast med terningen\u201d for at bryde d\u00f8dvandet.<\/em><\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1996\" data-end=\"2060\"><em>Ansvar for situationen: frav\u00e6ret af h\u00e5ndh\u00e6vet international ret.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<hr data-start=\"2062\" data-end=\"2065\" \/>\n<h3 data-start=\"2067\" data-end=\"2110\">\u201cSHAME STRATEGY\u201d \u2013 HVORFOR DEN FEJLER<\/h3>\n<blockquote>\n<p data-start=\"2113\" data-end=\"2132\"><em>Skam virker ikke.<\/em><\/p>\n<p data-start=\"2135\" data-end=\"2208\"><em>Narrativer som \u201cHamas stj\u00e6ler n\u00f8dhj\u00e6lp\u201d gentages, selv efter dementier.<\/em><\/p>\n<p data-start=\"2211\" data-end=\"2262\"><em>Ingen ansvarlighed \u2192 ingen h\u00e6mning \u2192 ingen \u00e6ndring.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<hr data-start=\"2264\" data-end=\"2267\" \/>\n<h3 data-start=\"2269\" data-end=\"2296\">ANALYSEN I EN S\u00c6TNING<\/h3>\n<blockquote data-start=\"2297\" data-end=\"2432\">\n<p data-start=\"2299\" data-end=\"2432\">\u201cDet, verden kalder krig, er en kontrolleret fordrivelse.<br data-start=\"2356\" data-end=\"2359\" \/>Folkemordet er v\u00e6rkt\u00f8jet \u2013 ikke fejlen i systemet, men selve metoden.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>[\/spb_text_block] [spb_raw_html width=&#8221;1\/1&#8243; 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Derfor har Israel <em data-start=\"202\" data-end=\"222\" data-is-only-node=\"\">ingen retlig titel<\/em> til Golanh\u00f8jderne (taget i 1967), og enhver l\u00f8sning m\u00e5 bygge p\u00e5 <em data-start=\"287\" data-end=\"334\">fuld tilbagetr\u00e6kning til gr\u00e6nsen f\u00f8r juni \u201967<\/em>.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"339\" data-end=\"962\">\n<p data-start=\"342\" data-end=\"962\"><strong data-start=\"342\" data-end=\"384\">Hamas er ikke \u00e5rsagen \u2013 men symptomet.<\/strong><br data-start=\"384\" data-end=\"387\" \/>Han afviser p\u00e5standen om, at Hamas er \u201cfjenden af fred\u201d.<br data-start=\"446\" data-end=\"449\" data-is-only-node=\"\" \/>Hans pointe: Israel havde \u00e5rtier til at l\u00f8se konflikten f\u00f8r Hamas blev valgt i 2006. Hvert \u00e5r stemmer n\u00e6sten hele FN for en resolution om l\u00f8sning efter international lov \u2014 kun USA, Israel og nogle f\u00e5 stillehavs\u00f8er stemmer imod.<br data-start=\"679\" data-end=\"682\" \/>Han siger: Hamas har faktisk erkl\u00e6ret sig villig til at acceptere en l\u00f8sning langs \u201967-gr\u00e6nsen, men ikke til at <em data-start=\"797\" data-end=\"828\">anerkende Israels legitimitet<\/em>. Det er ikke et krav i folkeretten \u2014 og han sammenligner med Gandhi, der anerkendte Pakistans eksistens, men ikke dens legitimitet.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"964\" data-end=\"1489\">\n<p data-start=\"967\" data-end=\"1489\"><strong data-start=\"967\" data-end=\"993\">Terror og lovens brud.<\/strong><br data-start=\"993\" data-end=\"996\" \/>Da v\u00e6rten udfordrer ham med hans omtale af Israel som \u201cterrorstat\u201d, svarer han med at citere dommeren Richard Goldstone, der konkluderede, at Israels m\u00e5l i Gaza var at \u201c<em data-start=\"1168\" data-end=\"1223\" data-is-only-node=\"\">punish, humiliate and terrorize a civilian population<\/em>\u201d.<br data-start=\"1225\" data-end=\"1228\" \/>Han siger:<br data-start=\"1241\" data-end=\"1244\" \/>\u2013 Terrorisme betyder at angribe civile for politiske m\u00e5l.<br data-start=\"1304\" data-end=\"1307\" \/>\u2013 Israel rammer rutinem\u00e6ssigt civile og civil infrastruktur.<br data-start=\"1370\" data-end=\"1373\" \/>\u2013 Selv hvis krigen var selvforsvar, <em data-start=\"1412\" data-end=\"1450\">kan man stadig beg\u00e5 terrorhandlinger<\/em> afh\u00e6ngigt af, hvordan man f\u00f8rer den.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"1491\" data-end=\"1746\">\n<p data-start=\"1494\" data-end=\"1746\"><strong data-start=\"1494\" data-end=\"1521\">Hvad verden burde g\u00f8re.<\/strong><br data-start=\"1521\" data-end=\"1524\" \/>Hans svar er enkelt: \u201c<em data-start=\"1549\" data-end=\"1567\" data-is-only-node=\"\">Enforce the law.<\/em>\u201d<br data-start=\"1568\" data-end=\"1571\" \/>\u2013 Bring Israel for den internationale straffedomstol, som alle andre.<br data-start=\"1643\" data-end=\"1646\" \/>\u2013 Drop s\u00e6rbehandlingen.<br data-start=\"1672\" data-end=\"1675\" \/>\u2013 Det er ikke radikalt at kr\u00e6ve, at eksisterende regler h\u00e5ndh\u00e6ves.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"1748\" data-end=\"2081\">\n<p data-start=\"1751\" data-end=\"2081\"><strong data-start=\"1751\" data-end=\"1774\">Om Israels fremtid.<\/strong><br data-start=\"1774\" data-end=\"1777\" \/>Da han bliver spurgt, om Israel b\u00f8r opl\u00f8ses, afviser han at give en personlig vision.<br data-start=\"1865\" data-end=\"1868\" data-is-only-node=\"\" \/>Han siger, han ikke er nogen Gandhi eller Mandela \u2014 bare en forsker fra Brooklyn \u2014 og at problemet er <em data-start=\"1973\" data-end=\"1995\">manglende konsekvens<\/em>: Israel holdes ikke ansvarlig for brud p\u00e5 folkeretten, og s\u00e5 forts\u00e6tter konflikten.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p data-start=\"2083\" data-end=\"2215\" data-is-last-node=\"\" data-is-only-node=\"\">Hele samtalen kredser om \u00e9t tema: <strong data-start=\"2117\" data-end=\"2146\">lovens dobbelte standard.<\/strong><br data-start=\"2146\" data-end=\"2149\" \/>N\u00e5r retten kun g\u00e6lder for nogle, bliver selve systemet medskyldig.<\/p>\n<h2 data-start=\"243\" data-end=\"301\">HVEM BESKYTTER RETTEN, N\u00c5R DOMMEREN BESKYTTER ISRAEL?<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"302\" data-end=\"341\"><strong data-start=\"302\" data-end=\"341\">KU-debat \u2013 10. april &amp; 26. maj 2025<\/strong><\/p>\n<h3 data-start=\"343\" data-end=\"406\">DOMMERENS DUALITET \u2013 N\u00c5R RETTEN TVIVLER P\u00c5 RETF\u00c6RDIGHEDEN<\/h3>\n<ol data-start=\"408\" data-end=\"667\">\n<li data-start=\"408\" data-end=\"597\">\n<p data-start=\"411\" data-end=\"597\"><strong data-start=\"411\" data-end=\"421\">RAMMEN<\/strong><br data-start=\"421\" data-end=\"424\" \/>K\u00f8benhavns Universitet, for\u00e5ret 2025.<br data-start=\"461\" data-end=\"464\" \/>Debat om Gaza, folkeret og ansvar. P\u00e5 scenen: Amnesty International, journalist Natasha, og <strong data-start=\"556\" data-end=\"594\">dommerfuldm\u00e6gtig Nina Palesa Bonde<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"599\" data-end=\"667\">\n<p data-start=\"602\" data-end=\"667\"><strong data-start=\"602\" data-end=\"627\">DET AVG\u00d8RENDE \u00d8JEBLIK<\/strong><br data-start=\"627\" data-end=\"630\" \/>Tidsm\u00e6rke <strong data-start=\"640\" data-end=\"651\">1:26:45<\/strong> i optagelsen:<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<blockquote data-start=\"668\" data-end=\"844\">\n<p data-start=\"670\" data-end=\"844\">\u201cHvis ICJ en dag frikender Israel, vil folk s\u00e5 ikke f\u00f8le sig vildledt \u2013 og vende sig til vold, fordi Amnesty kaldte det folkedrab?\u201d<br data-start=\"801\" data-end=\"804\" \/>\u2014 <em data-start=\"808\" data-end=\"842\">Nina Palesa Bonde, KU-debat 2025<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p data-start=\"846\" data-end=\"1078\">Et sp\u00f8rgsm\u00e5l, der ligner juridisk forsigtighed, men i virkeligheden <strong data-start=\"914\" data-end=\"971\">flytter ansvaret fra gerningsmanden til observat\u00f8ren.<\/strong><br data-start=\"971\" data-end=\"974\" \/>N\u00e5r en dommer sp\u00f8rger s\u00e5dan, lyder det ikke som neutralitet \u2013 men som frygt for sandhedens konsekvens.<\/p>\n<ol start=\"3\" data-start=\"1080\" data-end=\"1305\">\n<li data-start=\"1080\" data-end=\"1305\">\n<p data-start=\"1083\" data-end=\"1305\"><strong data-start=\"1083\" data-end=\"1093\">FAKTUM<\/strong><br data-start=\"1093\" data-end=\"1096\" \/>ICJ har allerede sl\u00e5et fast, at der foreligger <em data-start=\"1143\" data-end=\"1227\">\u201cplausible rettigheder og risiko for uoprettelig skade p\u00e5 pal\u00e6stinenserne i Gaza.\u201d<\/em><br data-start=\"1227\" data-end=\"1230\" \/>Verdens h\u00f8jeste domstol har alts\u00e5 ikke frikendt Israel \u2013 den har advaret.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p data-start=\"1307\" data-end=\"1364\">Amnesty mindede om pligten i FN\u2019s Folkedrabskonvention:<\/p>\n<blockquote data-start=\"1365\" data-end=\"1448\">\n<p data-start=\"1367\" data-end=\"1448\">\u201cMan skal advare, n\u00e5r risikoen er plausibel \u2013 ikke f\u00f8rst, n\u00e5r det er for sent.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<ol start=\"4\" data-start=\"1450\" data-end=\"1542\">\n<li data-start=\"1450\" data-end=\"1542\">\n<p data-start=\"1453\" data-end=\"1542\"><strong data-start=\"1453\" data-end=\"1477\">FINKELSTEINS MODBLIK<\/strong><br data-start=\"1477\" data-end=\"1480\" \/>Professor <strong data-start=\"1490\" data-end=\"1512\">Norman Finkelstein<\/strong>, i sin tale p\u00e5 UMass, 2025:<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<blockquote data-start=\"1543\" data-end=\"1703\">\n<p data-start=\"1545\" data-end=\"1703\">\u201cLoven mister sin autoritet, n\u00e5r den kun h\u00e5ndh\u00e6ves, hvor det er politisk bekvemt. N\u00e5r magten s\u00e6tter gr\u00e6nserne for juraen, bliver loven selv en forbrydelse.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p data-start=\"1705\" data-end=\"1883\">Han kaldte det \u201cretslig hykleri\u201d \u2013 den m\u00e5de vestlige jurister forsvarer Israels handlinger under p\u00e5skud af balance, mens de samme principper bruges aggressivt mod andre stater.<\/p>\n<blockquote data-start=\"1885\" data-end=\"2064\">\n<p data-start=\"1887\" data-end=\"2064\">\u201cMan taler om selvforsvar,\u201d sagde Finkelstein,<br data-start=\"1933\" data-end=\"1936\" \/>\u201cmen ignorerer, at bes\u00e6ttelse aldrig kan v\u00e6re selvforsvar. Man siger \u2018kompleksitet\u2019, men det betyder i praksis: vi ser v\u00e6k.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p data-start=\"2066\" data-end=\"2239\">For Finkelstein er sp\u00f8rgsm\u00e5let ikke, <em data-start=\"2103\" data-end=\"2107\">om<\/em> Israel har ret til at forsvare sig, men <strong data-start=\"2148\" data-end=\"2239\">hvordan retsstaten bevarer sin trov\u00e6rdighed, n\u00e5r den beskytter forbryderen mod beviset.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p data-start=\"2241\" data-end=\"2285\">Han afsluttede sin forel\u00e6sning med ordene:<\/p>\n<blockquote data-start=\"2286\" data-end=\"2373\">\n<p data-start=\"2288\" data-end=\"2373\">\u201cEn lov, der ikke g\u00e6lder for de svage, er ikke en lov \u2013 det er et ritual for magt.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<ol start=\"5\" data-start=\"2375\" data-end=\"2657\">\n<li data-start=\"2375\" data-end=\"2657\">\n<p data-start=\"2378\" data-end=\"2657\"><strong data-start=\"2378\" data-end=\"2393\">BEKYMRINGEN<\/strong><br data-start=\"2393\" data-end=\"2396\" \/>Derfor rammer Nina Palesas udtalelser et s\u00e5rbart sted.<br data-start=\"2450\" data-end=\"2453\" \/>N\u00e5r en dansk dommerfuldm\u00e6gtig \u2013 en repr\u00e6sentant for retssystemet \u2013 <strong data-start=\"2520\" data-end=\"2547\">afviser ICJ\u2019s vurdering<\/strong> og <strong data-start=\"2551\" data-end=\"2582\">mistror Amnesty\u2019s advarsler<\/strong>, bliver det et spejl p\u00e5 den pr\u00e6cis samme svaghed, Finkelstein beskriver:<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<blockquote data-start=\"2658\" data-end=\"2702\">\n<p data-start=\"2660\" data-end=\"2702\">Retten beskytter magten, ikke mennesket.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p data-start=\"2704\" data-end=\"2886\">Et retsv\u00e6sen, der t\u00f8ver med at kalde et muligt folkedrab ved navn, <strong data-start=\"2771\" data-end=\"2818\">udvander juraen, mens blodet stadig flyder.<\/strong><br data-start=\"2818\" data-end=\"2821\" \/>N\u00e5r dommeren tvivler p\u00e5 retten \u2013 <strong data-start=\"2854\" data-end=\"2886\">hvem t\u00f8r s\u00e5 stole p\u00e5 dommen?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[\/spb_text_block]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[spb_image image=&#8221;40979&#8243; image_size=&#8221;full&#8221; frame=&#8221;noframe&#8221; caption_pos=&#8221;hover&#8221; remove_rounded=&#8221;yes&#8221; fullwidth=&#8221;no&#8221; overflow_mode=&#8221;none&#8221; link_target=&#8221;_self&#8221; lightbox=&#8221;no&#8221; intro_animation=&#8221;none&#8221; animation_delay=&#8221;200&#8243; width=&#8221;1\/1&#8243; el_position=&#8221;first last&#8221;][\/spb_image] [spb_text_block animation=&#8221;none&#8221; animation_delay=&#8221;0&#8243; simplified_controls=&#8221;yes&#8221; custom_css_percentage=&#8221;no&#8221; padding_vertical=&#8221;0&#8243; padding_horizontal=&#8221;0&#8243; margin_vertical=&#8221;0&#8243; custom_css=&#8221;margin-top: 0px;margin-bottom: 0px;&#8221; border_size=&#8221;0&#8243; border_styling_global=&#8221;default&#8221; width=&#8221;1\/1&#8243; el_position=&#8221;first last&#8221;] FRA JUDENREIN TIL ARABREIN N\u00e5r sproget bliver et v\u00e5ben, gentager historien sig ikke \u2014 den forvandler sig. 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